Given the state of DL, what is the logical next thing to add/improve/replace? 
So what's next? (Patch of the Black Cat)
Started by Celeborn on Jan 27, 2008 · 33 posts in thread
Celeborn (#1)
What's next? Given the state of DL, what is the logical next thing to add/improve/replace?
Given the state of DL, what is the logical next thing to add/improve/replace?
ShanaArkai (#2)
umm... idk
pet eq? (other than collars)
pet eq? (other than collars)
Binkly (#3)
- Similar godforge things for crafts like whittle/tailor.
- Gauntlet bug (currently can't finish it without game crashing)
- Have bonuses for characters depending on epic class title
- Make areas enterable within layers of the world map (for instance entering an underground area while mining)
- HQ mob eq in epics
- Being able to capitilize your engravings
- Fix missing doors that magically appear after you go through that room's exit (dragon epics)
- Tweak baboos drop rates (too many hp/mana/move baboos pop not enough others to even slightly meet the enchanting demands)
- Have different tier epic dungeons for different tiers of xp.
That is all for now... I'll think of more later and try to elaborate lol... *bows*
- Gauntlet bug (currently can't finish it without game crashing)
- Have bonuses for characters depending on epic class title
- Make areas enterable within layers of the world map (for instance entering an underground area while mining)
- HQ mob eq in epics
- Being able to capitilize your engravings
- Fix missing doors that magically appear after you go through that room's exit (dragon epics)
- Tweak baboos drop rates (too many hp/mana/move baboos pop not enough others to even slightly meet the enchanting demands)
- Have different tier epic dungeons for different tiers of xp.
That is all for now... I'll think of more later and try to elaborate lol... *bows*
lingolas (#4)
I would caution that before we add any new things, lets make sure that all the old things are working properly. I believe that there is at least 500 bugs on the bug list. Also, it would be nice to have new areas too. Most of Alora is underpopulated.
Zidane (#5)
soulbindable: scourge and divine runes (bib- rip). 
Shasharala (#6)
I would agree with Lingolas. While new things would be wonderful and fun, you can't build on top of rot, or sand. We need a solid foundation. If we can fix the many bugs we have already, we'll be set for new updates, and the game will be running smoother than it has in a while.
Celeborn (#7)
*dripping in sweat* Only *wheeze* 75ish *gasp* open bugreports *wheeze* left. The rest are typo's. :p Another night or two and the backlog should be gonelingolas wrote:I would caution that before we add any new things, lets make sure that all the old things are working properly. I believe that there is at least 500 bugs on the bug list. Also, it would be nice to have new areas too. Most of Alora is underpopulated.
I tried to get as many of the old lingering bugs out of the way as possible.Now I need some positive ideas for the patch!
Wheeeeeee,
Daan
Chilliwack (#8)
first thing's first: 50x congratulations are in order for celeborn
second, what sort of stuff are you looking for? i put a few (maybe only two) suggestions in the suggestions forum
EDIT: i just read the announcement of all the things you just patched and wow! holy jesus! way to outdo yourself
ALSO EDIT: summoned things and pet don't attack in pvp
second, what sort of stuff are you looking for? i put a few (maybe only two) suggestions in the suggestions forum
EDIT: i just read the announcement of all the things you just patched and wow! holy jesus! way to outdo yourself
ALSO EDIT: summoned things and pet don't attack in pvp
ShanaArkai (#9)
ya cele, give us an idea af what you mean when you ask for ideas
also, i *shudders* agree with chilli, awsome job on the bugs,
*goes and post more bugs*
also, i *shudders* agree with chilli, awsome job on the bugs,
*goes and post more bugs*
Celeborn (#10)
I've limited pvp attacks to elementals for now since I remember a lot of 'what the bleep is my pet doing now' bugs pvp wise. I've got some plans that give you more control over your minions (and yourself) in a fight so in the future. (Don't forget to post a bug, you get boonies for fixed bugs now!Chilliwack wrote:what sort of stuff are you looking for? ALSO EDIT: summoned things and pet don't attack in pvp
)I've focused mainly on getting mud gold flowing again and making things like building (Quests and areas) more accessible to the rest of the caretakers.
Now I'm looking for things that will increase player enjoyment. I've got some plans, but there are lot of fixes/ changes/ improvements that are obvious to you guys but I won't pick up on myself since I do not actively play (err, I haven't gotten past level 6 yet
I seem to have the tendancy to pick the weakest and most horrible combinations possible).
Chilliwack (#11)
if you want to try playing through, an easy build is pally half-orc pentagram ooze.
by the way, pentagram is pretty much the standard starsign. perhaps the others could do with some up-sprucing
by the way, pentagram is pretty much the standard starsign. perhaps the others could do with some up-sprucing
lingolas (#12)
I just want to point out to everyone that Celeborn has implemented so many ideas that we requested in the past. I've been begging for the glorypools to come back and now they're here Whatever you post here, will probably be added...*cough*in3years*Cough*
Whatever you post here, will probably be added...*cough*in3years*Cough*
Celeborn (#13)
Uhh. thanks? o_Olingolas wrote:I just want to point out to everyone that Celeborn has implemented so many ideas that we requested in the past. I've been begging for the glorypools to come back and now they're here
Celeborn (#14)
I've re-read the whole suggestion forum and picked out the cherries so to speak. There was a noticable gap of ideas in 2006Chilliwack wrote:second, what sort of stuff are you looking for? i put a few (maybe only two) suggestions in the suggestions forum
Chilliwack (#15)
damroll baboos still need to pop more often
for the small amount that's on each baboo, they need to be WAY more common to meet the demand
for the small amount that's on each baboo, they need to be WAY more common to meet the demand
ShanaArkai (#16)
again i find myself agreeing with chilli, 1k damroll is standard for epics now, and with the amount of dam roll baboos, its hard to get enough damroll to survive epics
well... hard isnt really a good word for it, its much harder than "hard"
well... hard isnt really a good word for it, its much harder than "hard"
Binkly (#17)
Just had a thought... so I THOUGHT I'd throw it on the table. What if willpower was to work the same way with certain spells between pvp as it does players. For instance astral'ing to a pvp if you're a pvp could be blocked with enough willpower. I know some spells currently do work this way, but other spells could be beneficial to pvp tactics. Just a thought, everyone throw in a lil tid-bit, curious about the feedback on this one.
What if willpower was to work the same way with certain spells between pvp as it does players. For instance astral'ing to a pvp if you're a pvp could be blocked with enough willpower. I know some spells currently do work this way, but other spells could be beneficial to pvp tactics. Just a thought, everyone throw in a lil tid-bit, curious about the feedback on this one.
Chilliwack (#18)
a lot of people have suggested this, and i'm still behind it, WHERE YOU ALL BELONG TOO
gsman (#19)
me and cele discussed it a bit, and we think improving the ancestries/starsigns that people dont use is a good idea, but first we need to know why people dont use the ones that are avoided. I am also interested in why we dont use certain races if people could shed a bit of light on that as well. Input will be appreciated
ShanaArkai (#20)
at this point in time there are a few "uber" races
satyr is one (im sure most people wont agree) because he dosnt have to be a bard to have a song book, which is a new enchantable space
Grig seems to be one as well, because of its speed (and balance?)
orc/half orc because of their damage reduction
pixie/moon elf, because of their complexity boost
and ogre, because of its HP and double inventory space.
(if i have missed any please let me know)
the rest just.. arnt as good, the only reason for playing anything else would be RP reason, which most people nowdays dont include in character building
satyr is one (im sure most people wont agree) because he dosnt have to be a bard to have a song book, which is a new enchantable space
Grig seems to be one as well, because of its speed (and balance?)
orc/half orc because of their damage reduction
pixie/moon elf, because of their complexity boost
and ogre, because of its HP and double inventory space.
(if i have missed any please let me know)
the rest just.. arnt as good, the only reason for playing anything else would be RP reason, which most people nowdays dont include in character building
ShanaArkai (#21)
i didnt say the other races were horrible, just that the other races wernt "uber" like the ones i listed
Chilliwack (#22)
i think it would be interesting if you had to actually lead the things you release from cocoons in spider epics to the slab, instead of just making it sleep and assuming it gets out okay!
Kiasyn (#23)
sam says:
you should give books the ability to start quests
sam says:
Celeborn says:
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Celeborn says:
post it in my title thread
you should give books the ability to start quests
sam says:
Celeborn says:
;Celeborn says:
post it in my title thread
Celeborn (#24)
I've run through all the bugs I could care to for this week :p X_X *twitch* If you happen to have some characters from 2006 sitting idly pop them on for a sec to collect any bug rewards. 
Think its time for something fun for me soon *cackle* *CACKLE*
Think its time for something fun for me soon
*cackle* *CACKLE*
Chilliwack (#25)
does that mean you're gonna leave us for WoW again 
Celeborn (#26)
No that means I've polluted Tarsonis with a pink shop. Nuff said.Chilliwack wrote:does that mean you're gonna leave us for WoW again
ShanaArkai (#27)
i was thinking earlier, and i came up with an idea that tiaer even said wasnt bad. my idea: Involve hate ____. it would act like guild wars, only to a more personal level, people that "hate" each other in game would be able to freely pvp each other, yes i can see some abuse happening if it isnt done correctly, but the idea is still growing, so far i know you would have to make it so that you couldnt end the involvment mid fight, ill edit or add another post later if i come up with any more to add to this.
what do you guys think?
what do you guys think?
Chilliwack (#28)
you just might be on to something here!
but like, there should totally be a period of time where you can't switch back from hate, otherwise it's basically "come-and-go-as-you-please pvp". WITH NO RULES OR BOUNDARIES
but like, there should totally be a period of time where you can't switch back from hate, otherwise it's basically "come-and-go-as-you-please pvp". WITH NO RULES OR BOUNDARIES
ShanaArkai (#29)
or maybe it could work something like marrage, involve hate is just to notify someone you hate them, then a 2nd command could be involve war or something of the such, you would have to wait atleast 1 day after you involve hate someone to involve war, and once you involve war, you would have to wait atleast 1 more day to break the war?
Binkly (#30)
Another thing came to mind... what if spells were made crittable versus mobs only, could help for casters to make up for dmg, whereas damroll doesn't affect spells. Could possibly have the crit amount based on the amount of fecs. Say if a distort spell had 7 fecs then it could have a chance to do x7 crit... rare, but a chance like melee crits. Possibly maybe uncap the fec limit for offensive spells verus mobs as well. (I was thinking this because casters suck to epic with after the mobs hp gets so high and ur dmg becomes limited) Might also want to make the crit chance, have a roll dependency based on the players level.. so u dont have a bunch of lowbies running around with 7 fec arrow spells doing crit x7s or something. *shrugs* let me know if u like it lol byeee
byeee
Binkly (#31)
Also what about an improved deity system? it seems like wasted memory space right now lol
Shasharala (#32)
Talking about wasted memory space, has anyone seen my topic about planes? Doesn't it all seem a little wasted?
I mean shouldn't there maybe be more to it?
I think it would be interesting to open the idea of planes and the chants to get to them a little more and to make the areas a little more intriguing. Even our planes. Not quite sure what we would do in either, but I'm sure something could be figured out.
Maybe a quest of some sort. Or dungeons of some kind.
Welcome to my plane's dungeon. =o
LOL
-shrug-
Let me know what you guys think.
I think planes should be expanded right along with deitys.
and what about being able to follow minor deitys?
I always wished I could. =P
We may need to raise the ascended to a minor deity epic level for that, but imagine, we could praise certain people and get that single coin or whatever that deity is willing to give us. and the person would get what we sacrificed.
They may get thousands of corpses though, so maybe it can be programmed so they don't get the corpses, but anything else at least. =o
Maybe e1000's could be minor deitys. So far there are only 4 or 5 of those.
Or maybe they can just be deitys. Leave everyone else at their minor deity at e100.
How does that sound?
So tell me how updating planes and deities sounds. =o
I mean shouldn't there maybe be more to it?
I think it would be interesting to open the idea of planes and the chants to get to them a little more and to make the areas a little more intriguing. Even our planes. Not quite sure what we would do in either, but I'm sure something could be figured out.
Maybe a quest of some sort. Or dungeons of some kind.
Welcome to my plane's dungeon. =o
LOL
-shrug-
Let me know what you guys think.
I think planes should be expanded right along with deitys.
and what about being able to follow minor deitys?
I always wished I could. =P
We may need to raise the ascended to a minor deity epic level for that, but imagine, we could praise certain people and get that single coin or whatever that deity is willing to give us. and the person would get what we sacrificed.
They may get thousands of corpses though, so maybe it can be programmed so they don't get the corpses, but anything else at least. =o
Maybe e1000's could be minor deitys. So far there are only 4 or 5 of those.
Or maybe they can just be deitys. Leave everyone else at their minor deity at e100.
How does that sound?
So tell me how updating planes and deities sounds. =o
Shasharala (#33)
Might I also suggest making something cool for the people whoarn't epic yet? Alot of updates have gone into making epic people have it funner and cooler, and maybe that's something to work towards, but pre-epic leveling has stayed the same for a long while... don't know, just an idea.
And along with that, how about updating the help files?
I mean, the spell thrallbeast doesn't even have a helpfile. =o
Along with alot of other things.
And maybe the tutorial could be improved and drastically updated since it is way behind the times.
These are just ideas. =)
And along with that, how about updating the help files?
I mean, the spell thrallbeast doesn't even have a helpfile. =o
Along with alot of other things.
And maybe the tutorial could be improved and drastically updated since it is way behind the times.
These are just ideas. =)
