New Classes
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New Classes
Just writing this one so people can bounce around the ideas of new classes they think of. Or maybe classes replaced and such....
Jhereko of Surion Blackraven
Here are a number of classes I suggest:
Shaman- Like a druid in the fact they have awesome access to druid magic, but maybe they can permacharm a mobile and have it as a pet. And give them special abilities like "Claws of a Bear" "Stamina of the Wolf" "Eagle eye" "Screech of the bat" And maybe make them able to walk in the spirit realm and have visions. (maybe like have a vision of a mobile, as a heightened consider- like a mating between peek and deem)
Also- Assassin, Ninja, Mercenary, Necromancer, Slayer.
Assassin: They'd get enhanced damage and special abilities like "crippling wound, "maiming wound", "permanent wound" etc. And also "lethal blow" where anything that cons as an easy kill would get instantly slain.
Ninja: Stealth, Heightened thief abilities, fleeing without loss of exp, ranged w/ new weapons.
Mercenary: Maybe they could gain a higher % in gold for their mob kills, like they automatically get a %15 gold find
Necromancer: They can summon skeletons, breathe life into golems and construct golems. Sort of like a Druid, but cooler.
Slayer: Would gain a bonus against a particular kind of monster? Almost like a sworn enemy, or maybe they are just really good at killing and get a +5 dam roll per level or something but also only have half mana and -20% complexities.
Shaman- Like a druid in the fact they have awesome access to druid magic, but maybe they can permacharm a mobile and have it as a pet. And give them special abilities like "Claws of a Bear" "Stamina of the Wolf" "Eagle eye" "Screech of the bat" And maybe make them able to walk in the spirit realm and have visions. (maybe like have a vision of a mobile, as a heightened consider- like a mating between peek and deem)
Also- Assassin, Ninja, Mercenary, Necromancer, Slayer.
Assassin: They'd get enhanced damage and special abilities like "crippling wound, "maiming wound", "permanent wound" etc. And also "lethal blow" where anything that cons as an easy kill would get instantly slain.
Ninja: Stealth, Heightened thief abilities, fleeing without loss of exp, ranged w/ new weapons.
Mercenary: Maybe they could gain a higher % in gold for their mob kills, like they automatically get a %15 gold find
Necromancer: They can summon skeletons, breathe life into golems and construct golems. Sort of like a Druid, but cooler.
Slayer: Would gain a bonus against a particular kind of monster? Almost like a sworn enemy, or maybe they are just really good at killing and get a +5 dam roll per level or something but also only have half mana and -20% complexities.
"I've fallen so far from grace that pain is second nature to me now." ---Avestifal
Shaman- Like a druid in the fact they have awesome access to druid magic, but maybe they can permacharm a mobile and have it as a pet. And give them special abilities like "Claws of a Bear" "Stamina of the Wolf" "Eagle eye" "Screech of the bat" And maybe make them able to walk in the spirit realm and have visions. (maybe like have a vision of a mobile, as a heightened consider- like a mating between peek and deem)
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Problem: People would just permacharm mobs with slay programs
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Assassin: They'd get enhanced damage and special abilities like "crippling wound, "maiming wound", "permanent wound" etc. And also "lethal blow" where anything that cons as an easy kill would get instantly slain.
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Problem: crippling wound maiming wound and stuff like that is kinda like severs... lethal blow would be kinda useless because you wouldnt be able to use it on anything that you couldnt kill with 1 jab
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Ninja: Stealth, Heightened thief abilities, fleeing without loss of exp, ranged w/ new weapons.
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Problem: Last i checked... ninjas werent thieves... and why would they flee without loss of exp?
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Mercenary: Maybe they could gain a higher % in gold for their mob kills, like they automatically get a %15 gold find
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Can't see anything wrong with this
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Necromancer: They can summon skeletons, breathe life into golems and construct golems. Sort of like a Druid, but cooler.
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Problem: Constructs would be wayyyy to powerful Especially when you get the people with a zillion surps just filling up spells like that and making an invincible mob
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Slayer: Would gain a bonus against a particular kind of monster? Almost like a sworn enemy, or maybe they are just really good at killing and get a +5 dam roll per level or something but also only have half mana and -20% complexities.
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Problem: There are too many kinds of monsters :/
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Problem: People would just permacharm mobs with slay programs
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Assassin: They'd get enhanced damage and special abilities like "crippling wound, "maiming wound", "permanent wound" etc. And also "lethal blow" where anything that cons as an easy kill would get instantly slain.
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Problem: crippling wound maiming wound and stuff like that is kinda like severs
... lethal blow would be kinda useless because you wouldnt be able to use it on anything that you couldnt kill with 1 jab ------------------------
Ninja: Stealth, Heightened thief abilities, fleeing without loss of exp, ranged w/ new weapons.
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Problem: Last i checked... ninjas werent thieves... and why would they flee without loss of exp?
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Mercenary: Maybe they could gain a higher % in gold for their mob kills, like they automatically get a %15 gold find
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Can't see anything wrong with this
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Necromancer: They can summon skeletons, breathe life into golems and construct golems. Sort of like a Druid, but cooler.
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Problem: Constructs would be wayyyy to powerful Especially when you get the people with a zillion surps just filling up spells like that and making an invincible mob
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Slayer: Would gain a bonus against a particular kind of monster? Almost like a sworn enemy, or maybe they are just really good at killing and get a +5 dam roll per level or something but also only have half mana and -20% complexities.
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Problem: There are too many kinds of monsters :/
Kiasyn Kelle
Shaman problem: Make it impossible to target mobs with an autoslay thingie.
Assassin Problem: Crippling / Maiming Wound would allow for an auto wound if hit, as you would agree that there is some uncertainty about that. But make it have only a 40% chance to hit.
Ninja Problem: Thief heightened abilities: Ninja's can pick locks, so can thieves, ninja's can detrap things, so can thieves, ninja's don't pick pockets, thieves do. I didn't say ninja's WERE thieves, i said give them thief like abilities. Also, they do use very exotic weapons.
And the Ninja's whole thing is about completeing a task and getting away uscathed, they very much lived by the "he who runs away lives to fight another day" rule. Hence those smoke grenade thingies.
Necromancer Problem: So what you're saying is that Necromancers would be about as ridiculous as pixies?
And you can make it so that there's a max construct strength or whatever, make them slow as heck. Specialized constructs, a berserk rune in construct would make a berserker construct with little hp, massive dmg, and low defense. And I didn't say make an army of constructs like druids and their elementals, but maybe only make it so the character can only control one construct and a handful of undead at a time.
I'm thinking they would be sort of the opposite of Paladins, or maybe sacrifice their construct thingie for the ability to not be affected by crits except by holy avenger thingie.
Slayer Problem: You misunderstand, a certain kind of monster: Humanoids = Hobgoblins, Orcs, trolls, humans, elves, lizardmen
Small Humanoids = Goblins, Gnomes, Dwarves
Beasts = Dog, Lion, Giraffe, Hamster
Insects = ants, praying mantis
Reptilian= Lizardmen, komodo dragons, snakes
Dragons = Wyverns, Dragons, Dragonettes, Drakes
And so on and so forth.
Assassin Problem: Crippling / Maiming Wound would allow for an auto wound if hit, as you would agree that there is some uncertainty about that. But make it have only a 40% chance to hit.
Ninja Problem: Thief heightened abilities: Ninja's can pick locks, so can thieves, ninja's can detrap things, so can thieves, ninja's don't pick pockets, thieves do. I didn't say ninja's WERE thieves, i said give them thief like abilities. Also, they do use very exotic weapons.
And the Ninja's whole thing is about completeing a task and getting away uscathed, they very much lived by the "he who runs away lives to fight another day" rule. Hence those smoke grenade thingies.
Necromancer Problem: So what you're saying is that Necromancers would be about as ridiculous as pixies?
And you can make it so that there's a max construct strength or whatever, make them slow as heck. Specialized constructs, a berserk rune in construct would make a berserker construct with little hp, massive dmg, and low defense. And I didn't say make an army of constructs like druids and their elementals, but maybe only make it so the character can only control one construct and a handful of undead at a time.
I'm thinking they would be sort of the opposite of Paladins, or maybe sacrifice their construct thingie for the ability to not be affected by crits except by holy avenger thingie.
Slayer Problem: You misunderstand, a certain kind of monster: Humanoids = Hobgoblins, Orcs, trolls, humans, elves, lizardmen
Small Humanoids = Goblins, Gnomes, Dwarves
Beasts = Dog, Lion, Giraffe, Hamster
Insects = ants, praying mantis
Reptilian= Lizardmen, komodo dragons, snakes
Dragons = Wyverns, Dragons, Dragonettes, Drakes
And so on and so forth.
"I've fallen so far from grace that pain is second nature to me now." ---Avestifal
Perhaps we can have epic abilites for each unique epic class. For example maybe as a Royal Explorer at e1 you would get a 5% gold find increase. Then at e50 you get +5% more goldfind and +2 luck max. Then at e100 you get +5% more goldfind and more experience for exploring. These abilities would make epic classes a stronger, intstead of just having the abilities of the three classes you chose.
New Class:
Inventor (work on name):
Instead of using spells they use gadgets and as a "gadget" they could build an automaton as a sort of "elemental" and instead of spells they could have "blue prints" and special chemical combinations like some equivalent to napalm or something.
Inventor (work on name):
Instead of using spells they use gadgets and as a "gadget" they could build an automaton as a sort of "elemental" and instead of spells they could have "blue prints" and special chemical combinations like some equivalent to napalm or something.
"I've fallen so far from grace that pain is second nature to me now." ---Avestifal
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Re: Classes
It's nice to see people interested in new classes, but seriously, how can you expect to have new classes if the old ones are so imbalanced in regards to both the class itself and race combinations?
Only when you can truly achieve balance in all aspects can you have new classes. The addition of new classes, even then, will throw off any balance that you set out to achieve before implementation.
Honestly, if you're going to implement a shaman class, shouldn't you make sure that druids are upgraded to compete in the aspect of nature magic? The same with assassins/ninjas: people see the problem with rogues is that they only have a few useful unique skills (these people are usually the ones who don't take the time to thoroughly check out all the skills).
You also have to keep some reality where classes are concerned. Alot of the class suggestions come from video games already out there (BG2, D2, etc), where true classes should come from a medieval frame of mind (like alchemists, merchants, etc).
Possibly start another thread with each class, list all of the "uber skills" (meaning the skills that are most useful) and where each class compares to that class. For example, list a rogue with its most useful skill and then put it in comparison to a warrior, or a mage, or a paladin.
I just think we need to look at balancing the old classes before implementing new ones. I hate to piss on your parade, but I'm pretty sure it's something that alot of old players would like to see.
Only when you can truly achieve balance in all aspects can you have new classes. The addition of new classes, even then, will throw off any balance that you set out to achieve before implementation.
Honestly, if you're going to implement a shaman class, shouldn't you make sure that druids are upgraded to compete in the aspect of nature magic? The same with assassins/ninjas: people see the problem with rogues is that they only have a few useful unique skills (these people are usually the ones who don't take the time to thoroughly check out all the skills).
You also have to keep some reality where classes are concerned. Alot of the class suggestions come from video games already out there (BG2, D2, etc), where true classes should come from a medieval frame of mind (like alchemists, merchants, etc).
Possibly start another thread with each class, list all of the "uber skills" (meaning the skills that are most useful) and where each class compares to that class. For example, list a rogue with its most useful skill and then put it in comparison to a warrior, or a mage, or a paladin.
I just think we need to look at balancing the old classes before implementing new ones. I hate to piss on your parade, but I'm pretty sure it's something that alot of old players would like to see.
New Class Idea
Deathknight.
The combination of a Necromancer and a Warrior. Or the opposite of a Paladin. But I was thinker something much cooler than that. With spells based on Death, Decay and Undeath! And at Epic level the Deathknight becomes Undead! Yeah....pipedreams for the Wicked....
The combination of a Necromancer and a Warrior. Or the opposite of a Paladin. But I was thinker something much cooler than that. With spells based on Death, Decay and Undeath! And at Epic level the Deathknight becomes Undead! Yeah....pipedreams for the Wicked....
"Great Minds talk about Idea's,
Average Minds talk about Events,
Lesser Minds talk about People."
Average Minds talk about Events,
Lesser Minds talk about People."
Completely untrue. I remember awhile back either Quintos or Opus charmed Babylon (i think) and her slay progs still worked.Jorelani wrote: Typically, for a mob to instaslay anything, it has to have a mprog that uses it. When charmed, a mobile ignores all mprogs.
Jore... do you ever base your statements on any sort of fact?
Skill classes instead of classes. More classes just make for trouble.
Laurana:
Ok. Then it's called a bug. Shouldn't happen in the first place. Problems such as you described happen. While I may be wrong, I was thinking more along of the lines of logic when I said that.
There should be charmed NPC checks for every mprog check.
Laurana:
Ok. Then it's called a bug. Shouldn't happen in the first place. Problems such as you described happen. While I may be wrong, I was thinking more along of the lines of logic when I said that.
There should be charmed NPC checks for every mprog check.
He's talking about MUDs in general. Babylon is either a bug or a lack of foresight for whomever wrote the area.Laurana wrote:Completely untrue. I remember awhile back either Quintos or Opus charmed Babylon (i think) and her slay progs still worked.Jorelani wrote: Typically, for a mob to instaslay anything, it has to have a mprog that uses it. When charmed, a mobile ignores all mprogs.
Jore... do you ever base your statements on any sort of fact?
Those who know others are wise;
those who know themselves are enlightened.
Those who overcome others are powerful;
those who overcome themselves are strong.
~Tao Te Ching
those who know themselves are enlightened.
Those who overcome others are powerful;
those who overcome themselves are strong.
~Tao Te Ching
new classes
when are we going to get monks and merchants. i was wondering what going to be the speical ablility for both 
other then was mention 
other then was mention Dr. Zidane of The Forsaken
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hmm well what about blackgaurds,necromancers and blade-dancers.
blackgaurds should be the anti paladin and does ann the things of a paladin oposite. necromancers create undead ofcourse, and blade-dancers just spin around with swords and other edged weapons in high speed.
blackgaurds should be the anti paladin and does ann the things of a paladin oposite. necromancers create undead ofcourse, and blade-dancers just spin around with swords and other edged weapons in high speed.
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