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Vogar Eol
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Post subject: Dwarf only (other races banned!) Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 2:30 am |
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:39 pm Posts: 389 Location: Darstan, Alora
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Dwarves as they are have decent utilitarian skills for crafting. This has drawn a heck of a lot of dwarves to the game. However, their only purpose is to craft items. For the most part these item crafters/miners rarely level past 30, fewer reach Avatar, only a handful are Tri-Avatar, and less then that epic. Why? They don't have any combat skills for either magic or melee. For survival in epic, thats a disadvantage.
What needs to be done to dwarves? We don't need to encourage people to become dwarves, we need to encourage them to level their current dwarves. We do this by giving them a little bit of a combat bonus.
Dwarf: Mine Prospecting, Regen while Drunk (its only cute, not useful for combat), 'Feral Rage' like effect while drunk.
I would recommend +0.1 Attack per level (max +5attack), +3 damage every other level (Max +75damage), -1 wis/int every tenth level (max -5) and finially -0.1 mobility per level (max -5 mobility) for the "Drunken Rage"
Lingolas suggested making alcohol work like vial potions of healing.... ie... instant HP per sip for a dwarf. I disagree with this strongly. Its not the liqour that heals a dwarf. Its the act of being drunk. If a person wanted to make this better the ammount of points healed per "warms the body" message could be dependant on your max HP instead of the same for everyone.
Lingolas also thought that dwarves should have a decreased balance because they are short and stocky. Since when? Every depiction I have ever seen of a dwarf shows they have HUGE feet compared to their body. Would not that mean they are hard to knock over? Also, is it easier for you to fall on your arse while standing, kneeling, or sitting? Methinks the taller you are, the harder you fall. Not the other way around.
Lingolas also seems to think my +5 AR and +75damage are a bit to much. However he failed completely to notice the minus five mobility which completely removes the Attack Roll benefit (those you are fighting have the same bonus on you as you do on them). He also neglected the -5 int and -5wis which would hurt the ability to cast high complexity spells via about -2 complexity. Its not like dwarves are pixies and have complexity to spare. And +75 damage isn't that much when you consider the complexity price your paying, and the fact you have to be drunk as all heck to gain it.
In short, methinks Lingolas was being a bit unreasonable. He could have said +50 damage is better then +75. Instead he perfers to take an already worthless casting and fighting race, and say they shouldn't get a bonus, they should just be given a lot lower balance. Is Lingolas really sane?
_________________ ~Vogar Eol, Beater of Blades Thane Ezbad, The Circle of Steel
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Cyradis Khar'Del
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Post subject: No Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:18 pm |
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Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:12 am Posts: 17 Location: Australia
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You're about the only Triav dwarf I know. Dwarves need to be made different. They're no good fighters. I'm allowed in this forum coz i have a dwarf. Its also very early in the morning and I talk to much. This discussion looked lonley so i had to fix that *fixes lonely things* No, Lingolas is not sane. We all knew that from the start, but by the looks of things Neither am I *whoo falls off her chair onto a heap because of tiredness* Did this post make sense??? I'm definitely going to bed now.
_________________ ’º¤o¤º’Cyrådis’º¤o¤º’
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Vogar Eol
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:22 pm |
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:39 pm Posts: 389 Location: Darstan, Alora
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Yay! This topic actually got a post!
_________________ ~Vogar Eol, Beater of Blades Thane Ezbad, The Circle of Steel
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Sardonyx
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:58 am |
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Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:24 am Posts: 134
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I have 3 tri av Dwarves...but Vogar disowns them cause the poor things were born without beards. ![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
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Kiasyn
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:11 am |
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Joined: Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:11 am Posts: 814 Location: New Zealand
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i also have a dwarf triav... but vogar disowns that too ![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif) not that i care
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lingolas
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:11 am |
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Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:28 am Posts: 449 Location: Irvine, orange county, California
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I also have 3 dwarves. I keep them as my mining slaves.
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Vogar Eol
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:49 am |
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:39 pm Posts: 389 Location: Darstan, Alora
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I also have a dwarf tri-av.
_________________ ~Vogar Eol, Beater of Blades Thane Ezbad, The Circle of Steel
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Shira
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:52 pm |
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Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:19 pm Posts: 89 Location: Ohio - USA
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I have one dwarf - good enough if you ask me! *cracks the whip and sneers GET TO WORK SLAVE!!*
_________________ ~ Shira Dar'synd, Mistress of Godforges (HAD, OOA) ~
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Vogar Eol
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:36 pm |
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:39 pm Posts: 389 Location: Darstan, Alora
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Don't annoy me. Sometimes Vogar gets angry.
_________________ ~Vogar Eol, Beater of Blades Thane Ezbad, The Circle of Steel
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Kiasyn
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:43 am |
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Joined: Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:11 am Posts: 814 Location: New Zealand
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Dwarves have a fighting technique. cannonball ![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
_________________ Kiasyn Kelle
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Vogar Eol
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:28 am |
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:39 pm Posts: 389 Location: Darstan, Alora
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Its more a skill, or opening move then a technique.
Damage created is equal to two lunges, with location targeting possible.
It also does other things, and has certain requirements to be able to use it. However, you can all find those out yourself.
_________________ ~Vogar Eol, Beater of Blades Thane Ezbad, The Circle of Steel
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Nellwyn
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:11 am |
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Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 125 Location: Cargonia, Alora
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Vogar Eol wrote: Don't annoy me. Sometimes Vogar gets angry.
This should get interesting. ^^
_________________ ~ Nellwyn Dro'han, Queen - Kingdom of Cargonia, Mark of the Sun Dragon ~
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Gilgolad
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:21 am |
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Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:55 pm Posts: 309 Location: The Garrison at Hammerford, Hammerford Alora
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I thought dwarves were kick ass warriors with axes? why the bad rep then? ![Question :?:](./images/smilies/icon_question.gif)
_________________ Gilgolad
Order Of Angels
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And the angels sang in immaculate chorus, and down from the heavens decended Chuck Norris!
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Chavez
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:45 pm |
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Joined: Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:28 pm Posts: 10 Location: Belgium
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I'm making a Holy Templar dwarf, you haven't heard the last of that ![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
_________________ The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn' exist... But I do exist...
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