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Craft limit

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:52 pm
by Celeborn
I'm going for a crafting system where you can learn multiple crafting styles and combine them in your crafted items (imagine learning dwarven and elvish crafting style, allowing you to reforge your axe with a dwarven metal with elf style decorations and magical enchantments).

I'm pondering if I should limit the number of crafts a single hero can learn, or allow them to learn everything. I'm leaning for the last, i'm looking for arguments for or against. Which would you enjoy more, and why?

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:22 pm
by Chilliwack
personally i'm against crafting, because it'd be really hard to keep balance... like crafted equipment should be better, but not by an earth-shattering amount

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:32 pm
by Herms2.0
Maybe limit depending on the race? I understand though that this would mean that people would chose certain races agaist others but i suppose it'd be unavoidable. An example would be being a dwarf and learning dwarven style of forging, because you're a dwarf you're already skilled in the arts of crafting so you would have a wider range of craft skills (gnomish, human, elvish?) then lets say a troll who's not really all that great in the arts of crafting. Also you could add into it, depending on the race there are only certain types of crafts you can use, like dwarven being able to do all the "good" races, but not able to do lets say troll style of crafting. Or an elf who can do elvish style and drow ( if they'll be in the game ) style, but can do orcish style because it's too brute for their kind. And vice versa.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:39 pm
by lingolas
i like to be able to learn everything on one character, but i dont think it will be good for DL community. If everyone can make everything, people will not get to interact with each other as much. I like to see players negotiate for crafted equ. Something like "if you make me a helm i'll make you a bracer. do we have a deal?"

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:15 am
by Kiasyn
i think a limit somewhere along the lines of a point system, ie.

points:

Code: Select all

Crafting (30/50 points spent): 
 ... Weapons				1 point
      ... Metal Axes			1 point
	   ... Mithril reforge		5 points
           ... Dwarven enhancements	5 points
	   ... Elvish enchantments	5 points
 ... Armor				1 point
      ... Wrist				1 point
           ... Metal Bracers		1 point
                ... Orc Spikes		5 points
                ... Elvish enhancements 5 points

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:53 am
by lingolas
good points

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:33 am
by Celeborn
Binding of items definitely isn't one of those things that Ashmaran will inherit, as it makes the game one big shared singleplayer game. :P Muds are about sharing and helping each other out.

Don't worry too much about the balancing aspect of crafts and crafts overshadowing NPC gear, i've got that covered. I'm interested into why learning all crafts or just some of them would be more enjoyable (for the players as a whole) over the other.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:09 pm
by Chilliwack
flip a coin

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:30 am
by Zidane
:D

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:01 pm
by Zidane
lingolas wrote:i like to be able to learn everything on one character, but i dont think it will be good for DL community. If everyone can make everything, people will not get to interact with each other as much. I like to see players negotiate for crafted equ. Something like "if you make me a helm i'll make you a bracer. do we have a deal?"
i agree on this. :wink:

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:25 pm
by Arzhul
Why not allow everyone to craft everything, BUT have no limit on how much one can progress in one craft? It'd allow people to craft pretty much anything but someone wanting a true master craft would have to concentrate on it...

craft limits

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:24 pm
by Sabin
i think that charactersd should be able to learn crafts and they should be able to create all the stuff, but this would make players become indifferent to one another, so i think we should have to choose one or two crafts based on our race and craft all the items of those crafts, like stonecutting and metalworking for dwarves, woodcutting and sewing for elves, etc.

Re: craft limits

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:40 am
by Zidane
Sabin wrote:i think that charactersd should be able to learn crafts and they should be able to create all the stuff, but this would make players become indifferent to one another, so i think we should have to choose one or two crafts based on our race and craft all the items of those crafts, like stonecutting and metalworking for dwarves, woodcutting and sewing for elves, etc.
so you saying a elf would be able to adept tp woodcarving more faster then other races? if so im all for it :)

continued craft discussion

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:47 pm
by Sabin
zidane, that is exactly what im saying. i believe that would be a great idea[/quote]