Dark Legacy MUD Forum

I have been experimenting with and against elementals using my Shaman, Cecil, and with the help of Chubbukoku.

We both use surp runes for our elementals, and these elementals pretty overpowered. The elementals without surps don't seem very overpowered, and would probably suck if nerfed too hard. There is also no way to resist or avoid the prog damage for a Magic Elemental(created by conjure elemental with no elemental rune)

My suggestion:

1. Force players to add an elemental rune to the spell, like with breath
2. Increase the base complexity to 70, increase base level of elementals to 50.
3. Increase attack and physical damage of elementals.
4. Reduce elemental hitpoint gain with levels, I recommend changing it to something around 20 hp/level. Remove hp cap on elementals.

Things not to do:

1. Reduce levels gained from adding fecs. It is REALLY cool to be able to summon a level 100+ mob.
2. Remove elemental prog damage. Elementals are the way to get past ridiculous defenses and retreating(though they aren't so good vs high hp). Their overall damage output could use some lowering, but the complexity/level change I suggested should take care of that.
3. Increase number of elementals. Druids do NOT need a second elemental.

[color=violet]I believe the usefulness of other summon spells should be worked on. They need a bit of a boost. When was the last time anyone used "Summon Vermin"? Perhaps give rats the ability to accept orders up to one or two rooms away? Special things would make each summon spell useful.[/color]

I do not think that summon vermin should ever be extremely useful. OMG I MADE A RAT! NOW IT CAN GO KILL BIG SCARY MONSTERS FOR ME! -.-

If elementals are only overpowered when you add surps to them... just make it where you can only add 1 surp (or none?) to the prism. You said it's not overpowering if you don't add surps to it so don't nerf the whole thing by increasing its base complexity.

And I agree with Vogar.. another summons could use a tweak(ie raise your AR by 5%, or 5%HP while they're alive, see hidden mobs, etc while they're active/alive) On a similar topic.. maybe bards could get more songs with boosters.

Jerardo...That's what my suggestion did, except in a not-stupid way. It would make it so you have to gain epic levels to add surps; simply saying you can't add surps is stupid. Surps are extremely hard to get and making it so you can't use them defeats their purpose.

If you believe that the purpose of summoning a rat to kill a monster, you are missing the point. When vogar suggests that summoning vermin to be more useful he specifically mention their ability to accept orders a room or two away. Sometimes spells and skills are not always to kill kill hack hack blast blast.

but why would you be able to order a rat to rooms away? is their hearing that good?

i understand that elementals are pretty powerful. especially when you summon an elemental e130 or higher but we all should keep in mind that the elemental is all a druid has